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Thanks to Mike and DPD for the feedback. Sam Darnold, though he seems to be the consensus number 1 QB in the draft by all the “experts”, just scares the living crap out of me. Yes, he’s a gifted athlete and by all accounts a tremendous kid; but there are times when I see him play that there’s something wanting in his game. Perhaps an inability to recognize defenses as quickly as he should, or an inability to see the entire field – particularly the middle of it. The pick-6 against Ohio State in the Cotton Bowl is a prime example, but there are other instances as well. I certainly don’t wish him any ill will, but I am nervous at the prospect of him becoming the next quarterback of the future for the Cleveland Browns.
Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!
Yeah, while Darnold has the moves to make for a great highlight film, his fumbilitis is a major concern.
Mayfield has that “badass” feel to him, and honestly the type of attitude I love to see in a player…but those off-field issues coupled with his size would scare me away were I a GM.
Josh Rosen is probably the safest bet of all the QBs, where Josh Allen may have the highest ceiling. Gonna be an interesting draft.
any QB we pick at #1 will have a year to sit and learn unless t rod gets destroyed like RG3 did in game 1 “Knock wood” hopefully we pick a great one who’ll stabilize the position for us for a decade.
but those off-field issues coupled with his size would scare me away were I a GM.
I’ve heard this said multiple times from so many people, and I have to say, I don’t understand what people mean about this.
What “off-the-field issues”? I mean that seriously. Here’s the entire list of his “issues”:
2 years ago he got a drunk and disorderly charge. Yes, it was an embarrassing incident (because he tried to run, like an idiot), but name me the number of kids that DON’T get drunk and do something stupid at least once in college. What is it, 5, 6 lol? It’s not like he was driving through campus naked and flipping everyone the the bird. He got drunk once and was walking home, oooooooooooooooooh.
He planted the Oklahoma flag at the 50-yard line at OSU. Now personally, this one pissed me off because I’m a huge Ohio State fan and I thought it was bush-league and disrespectful. But in reality, who cares? Oooooooooh, he planted a flag!!!! A little bit of over-exuberance on his part, but he was really fired up after a huge win for his team while avenging a loss from the previous season to the same team, this time in their house. It’s not like he dragged his balls across the logo and spit on it while rubbing it in with his foot. At most, he looked foolish because the Shoe has artificial turf and the flag just immediately fell down. I still fail to see how this particular action is, was, and somehow continues to be a character flaw of some kind. I really don’t get it. (Also, this was “on the field”, not off).
The across the field yelling/crotch grabbing against Kansas. (Another “on the field” incident). This drew all kinds of attention as well because he grabbed his junk an told the other team to stick to basketball. Everyone jumped on him for this but almost everyone ailed to mention that all of the Kansas players refused to shake his hand at the coin toss. Now I’m not saying that Mayfield handled it very maturely, but Kansas was amazingly disrespectful to him first and I don’t think a crotch tug and “stick to basketball” is so egregious of an offense in retaliation as to have his character challenged. Again, a bit immature at most, crude at worst.
That’s it. That’s the entire list of Baker Mayfield transgressions that have him labeled negatively and that have raised so many red flags. I think it’s a joke. Two of those things happened on the field not off, and I think sometimes people forget that he’s a 22 year old kid, not a 35 year old man who knows better and is control of his emotions.
To me it’s totally ridiculous. I think if people are going to judge him, judge him on his skills, his size, and whether or not you think his game can translate to the NFL. That’s all fair game. But bringing up this narrative of “off-the-field” incidents is a bunch of bullshit. So are the Johnny Manziel comparisons. Johnny Drunkenblow had already established himself as a completely out-of-control party animal with multiple drunken incidents on his resume before he even got to College Station, and it only progressed from there during his 2 year college career. Baker Mayfield is a walk-on football player who did nothing but bust his ass his entire college career to get himself and his team in the position to have the success that they did. Him and Manziel are two completely different people.
While the list isn’t as lengthy as Johnny Manziel, there’s the beginning of what may be determined as a particular pattern of behavior if it goes unchecked. The flagpole thing isn’t even an issue as far as I’m concerned. However, the drunken disorderly incident is a concern. Hopefully for Baker, this is a one-time boneheaded moment in a young man’s life that he can learn from. If not, then it’ll be a concern. To ignore it completely would be foolish beyond comprehension. If he’s learned anything from the incident, then you can chalk it up as a lesson in life that had to be learned the hard way. Then it’ll be time to move on to bigger and better things.
Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!
Hopefully for Baker, this is a one-time boneheaded moment in a young man’s life that he can learn from. If not, then it’ll be a concern. To ignore it completely would be foolish beyond comprehension. If he’s learned anything from the incident, then you can chalk it up as a lesson in life that had to be learned the hard way. Then it’ll be time to move on to bigger and better things.
Wouldn’t you say at this point it’s fair to call it a one-time incident though? It’s been 2 years since this happened now. Nothing else since then. And again, I’d like to point out that what he originally did wasn’t even that big of a damn deal anyway. Unless we’re going to start looking down on and being “concerned” over college kids getting drunk occasionally, uh, it’s not a big deal. He got drunk, was walking home, and ran when the police showed up. It’s hardly a pattern of behavior or an indictment at all on his character. If he had actually been doing something wrong, committed a crime or been part of a serious offense sure, but a 20 year old college kid walking home drunk after a party and being a little loud while doing it doesn’t sound any alarms for me in any way. I’d just call him an idiot.
I despise the thought process that one incident establishes in stone who you are, what you’re about, and defines your character as a person. If that were the case I’d be fucked, cast away from society and ostracized to live out the rest of my days as a recluse/hermit up on a mountain for some of the stupid shit I did between 18-24.
It’s absolutely ridiculous to me.
At this point, it most likely is a one-time thing. However, it still needed to be investigated and addressed. And BTW . . . you’re not the only one who looks back at the stuff they’d done between the ages of 18-24 and wonder “How did I manage to get here?” The thing is that neither of us is being asked to become the face of an NFL franchise either.
Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!
I think Manziel’s issues are VERY different from Mayfield. Manziel was not a hard worker. He was entitled through his entire life up to and including his time in the NFL. He didn’t EARN anything. He was naturally gifted and wasted his gift. He had no love for football.
Mayfield is immature but he’s earned everything he’s gotten. He walked on at Texas Tech where he crushed it. Then he walked on again at Oklahoma. where he obviously crushed it again. He needs to learn from those stupid mistakes he made. If he were 3 inches taller he would have been the top prospect in this draft.
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