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Doesn’t matter. We’ve head HC experience and coordinates experience, never worked out.
Dorsey is the first GM we’ve had that knows football. Hes earned our trust with his history which includes a stellar first draft for us
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I heard the Browns were almost insistant on the new coach keeping Freddie as oc I guess it’s wait and see, although I saw where they’ve got Stefanski coming back for a second interview.
Just read that since coach Stefanski’s contract with the Vikings expired Monday the second interview might not be for HC but OC under Kitchens.
Look I like Kitchens, but if they hire him over Williams who he prospered under. I just don’t get how he merited it over Williams. I am not against it I just don’t understand the logic/thinking.
I mean after Jackson’s SoCal incompetence, I am more than ready for a Good Ole boy from Bama to take the helm. But I am confused about the potential logic thinking of it.
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Look I like Kitchens, but if they hire him over Williams who he prospered under. I just don’t get how he merited it over Williams. I am not against it I just don’t understand the logic/thinking.
I mean after Jackson’s SoCal incompetence, I am more than ready for a Good Ole boy from Bama to take the helm. But I am confused about the potential logic thinking of it.Baker Mayfield development. That’s why. If Kitchens is OC 1 more year he’s gone as HC elsewhere. Simple as that
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Baker Mayfield development. That’s why. If Kitchens is OC 1 more year he’s gone as HC elsewhere. Simple as that
Soup’s right. His stock will only rise the more he works with Mayfield.
Reacting out of fear to make a choice usually doesn’t end well as a decision making criteria. Hypothetically losing Kitchens as a coordinator doesn’t mean he is a good head coaching candidate. As there are plenty examples of coordinator guy being awesome at being a coordinator and sucking at being a Head Coach.
A Head COach should be hired on his merits not out of fear of losing a coordinator.
Given Soup Hypothesis is actually right…and it could be BTW. BUT…. there has been several hot coordinators that never got HC’ing jobs over the last few years as well.
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It looks as if the plan now is going to be Kitchens for HC and Stefanski coming in as OC under him.
Look I like Kitchens, but if they hire him over Williams who he prospered under. I just don’t get how he merited it over Williams.
Simple: Greg Williams is in his 60’s, and Kitchens is in his 40’s.
Also, Greg Williams will most likely remain here in his DC role.
It looks as if the plan now is going to be Kitchens for HC and Stefanski coming in as OC under him.
Look I like Kitchens, but if they hire him over Williams who he prospered under. I just don’t get how he merited it over Williams.
Simple: Greg Williams is in his 60’s, and Kitchens is in his 40’s.
Also, Greg Williams will most likely remain here in his DC role.NFL HC jobs are an old mans profession. It’s considered really young if you are in your 40’s. Williams is 60, he could coach for 10 more years very likely. But if they wana go with a young Gen X’er I am cool with that because I actually got to type that sentence :D.
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It looks as if the plan now is going to be Kitchens for HC and Stefanski coming in as OC under him.
Simple: Greg Williams is in his 60’s, and Kitchens is in his 40’s.
Also, Greg Williams will most likely remain here in his DC role.Where are you getting this info?
Where are you getting this info?
Friends in Cleveland sports media. I won’t name names but you guys all know that I used to work for KNR and Fox Sports Ohio. I stay in touch with a lot of people.
Also, I’d like to reiterate that I don’t state this as a fact, just that this seems to be the consensus opinion right now.
Williams is 60, he could coach for 10 more years very likely.
Possibly, but very unlikely. You don’t see very many head coaches over the age of 65. There are some outliers to be sure, but very, very few. Outside of Belicheck and the newly re-hired Bruce Arians, I honestly can’t think of one off the top of my head.
We have a 23-year old franchise QB. The smart play would be to try and pair him up with a coach that can be here his entire career if possible. At most Williams has a 5 year shelf life.
I’m not saying it’s a bad idea. If you can win a superbowl or two in the next 5 years than hell yes it’s worth it. But for long-term viability, you want to go with the younger guy.
NFL HC jobs are an old mans profession.
I disagree with that.
In fact, I don’t thin aside from the 2 coaches I named there are currently any above 60 right now, and a bunch in their 40’s.
I would all for this. I don’t see Williams as a long term guy. His yelling/swearing/in-your-face stuff works in the short term, and it was a good change of pace from Hue. But long term, it wears thin on guys and it’s not sustainable. Just my opinion.
Also, while his defense was OK, it COMPLETELY FELL apart against good offenses. Anybody see any playoffs games last weekend? Happen to noticed how defenses didn’t collapse just because they faced playoff caliber offenses? Not Gregg’s defenses. They look like Swiss cheese against good offenses. I really see him as the beneficiary of good players. At no point did I think the defense was better than the sum of its parts, and a good DC should be able to get that out of his defense.
It looks as if the plan now is going to be Kitchens for HC and Stefanski coming in as OC under him.
Simple: Greg Williams is in his 60’s, and Kitchens is in his 40’s.
Also, Greg Williams will most likely remain here in his DC role.Where are you getting this info?
He is clearly making it up as he goes. His “friends” in cleveland are also saying things like this on the radio….. Guess what, they need something to talk about. Lol
Even if they want to keep Williams as the coordinator which I am sure someone somewhere in the organization said this is an option, that doesn’t mean he will want to stay. It is all rubbage. Don’t fall into the same trap the shooters of the world fall into.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
Were these the same people who said that 100% the first overall pick would be Saquon Barkley? If so they were due to get something right.
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