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Holy trades batman! You really think Sashi will be as afraid of making a pick as Mangini was?
Lynch in the 2nd round is nucking futs. He goes top 10. He compares favorably to Joe Flacco (18th overall) in every category.
Then again, who am I to doubt the draft guru?
If we pick Shawn Oakman then the entire staff best be fired right after the pick.
He was arrested yesterday for sexual assault. (Not just accused, but actually arrested)
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Not sticking up for criminals, but being arrested is just the next step after being accused. It does not mean you’re guilty.
Also that bring’s Soup’s firing of the entire staff to 200. Quite a milestone!
Hey, Ice, you know that I have a TON of respect for your opinions; and I truly appreciate your respect for mine. But as I stated it in this mock, there’s no other QB in this draft that carries a first round grade other than Jared Goff and Carson Wentz – and my preference is not in that order (as you already well know). Now, does that mean that one or two more won’t be taken? Absolutely not. In fact, this league is so QB driven that some team may hit the panic button and take Lynch in the top ten just like you said. For every Peyton Manning, there’s a Ryan Leaf . . . for every Blake Bortles, there’s a Johnny Manziel . . . for every Andrew Luck, there’s a Robert Griffin III . . . and so on and so forth. If you had tp put cold hard cash on it, who do you think the Christian Ponder of this year’s draft is going to be?
Jon Gruden – who’s never met a quarterback he didn’t like – said “I’d be surprised if Christian Hackenberg made it out of the first round.” Does ANYONE that contributes to this website honestly believe what he’s saying? If they do, then they’re blindly drinking the Kool-Aid.
By the way . . . since Brian Hoyer was released by the Texans, I’m completely shocked that I haven’t heard ESPNCleveland’s Tony Grossi waxing poetically about re-kindling that man crush. We’ve all seen that movie before, and it doesn’t end well for Brian.
Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!
Not sticking up for criminals, but being arrested is just the next step after being accused. It does not mean you’re guilty.
Also that bring’s Soup’s firing of the entire staff to 200. Quite a milestone!You don’t touch him with a 5 million foot pole (I’m assuming Wunkle did his mock prior to the info hitting yesterday or he missed it which doesn’t matter for a mock draft – but if it becomes reality – it’s a huge red flag that the front office is clueless after Manziel/Gordon/Bryant):
More than a week after being accused of sexual assault, former Baylor defensive end Shawn Oakman was arrested Wednesday.
As of Wednesday afternoon, the 24-year-old Oakman was “waiting to be booked into jail” on a sexual assault charge, according to the Waco Tribune. The arrest comes after a female Baylor student accused Oakman of sexually assaulting her in the early morning hours of April 3 after the two left a nightclub together.
Police records say the two returned to Oakman’s residence, where she said he “forcibly removed” her clothing, “forced” her onto a bed and assaulted her. Oakman, Baylor’s all-time sack leader and an NFL prospect, told police the sexual contact was consensual.
From the Tribune:
Waco police searched his James Avenue residence on April 3 looking for evidence to support the woman’s claims that Oakman sexually assaulted her between 2 a.m. and 3 a.m. that same day.
A police affidavit for the search warrant said police were looking for clothing the woman left behind at Oakman’s duplex, earrings, blood, semen, bodily fluids, hair, skin cells, DNA, bedsheets and other items.
Court documents indicate officers seized two comforters, a fitted sheet and a flat sheet from Oakman’s bedroom. The woman went to the hospital after the alleged assault and was examined by a sexual assault nurse examiner, according to the court records.
The 6-foot-9, 275-pound Oakman, who graduated in December, was a standout defensive lineman for the Bears, registering a combined 84 tackles, 34 tackles for loss and 15.5 sacks in his junior and senior seasons. Oakman landed at Baylor in 2012 after beginning his career at Penn State, where he was dismissed for violating team rules.
Two other former Baylor players, Tevin Elliott and Sam Ukwuachu, have been convicted of sexual assault in recent years. Additionally, a report emerged Wednesday saying the school waited two years to investigate a claim against two players. Tight end Tre’Von Armstead and practice player Myke Chatman were accused of sexually assaulting a woman in 2013. Armstead was dismissed from the program in September 2015, while Chatman left Baylor in 2012 to play at FCS Sam Houston State.
The school has been heavily criticized for its handling of these cases and hired a law firm to conduct a review of its policies and procedures.
For more Baylor news, visit SicEmSports.com.
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It’s a neat trick getting 32, 33, and 34, but to call it wishful thinking would be generous. I’m of the mindset that we need to get a QB in this draft, but if we trade down and still get Lynch at the top of the second, I’d be ecstatic.
Crazy trades aside, I haven’t seen 1 draft where Will Fuller gets out of the first as you have it. Assuming he’s picked, though, I’d be thrilled to get Michael Thomas, who you have still available. I think he’s underrated going into this draft.
One last comment, since I am a Buckeyes fan, one thing about your draft jumped out at me. Where are Taylor Decker, Darron Lee, and Eli Apple? Basically every mock out there as those 3 all as round 1 picks, except yours. Eli Apple, I think, is overrated simply because he wore scarlet and gray, but the other 2 seem to be a glaring omission, to me.
Anyways, nice job on the mock. I look forward to seeing Shawn Oakman break Soup in half for talking bad about Shawn Oakman.
FYI . . . I wasn’t made aware of Shawn Oakman’s legal issues until this morning. My bad.
Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!
FYI . . . I wasn’t made aware of Shawn Oakman’s legal issues until this morning. My bad.
That’s what I figured (I was having fun with it in my response in hopes to make you laugh). I think the news came out around lunch yesterday when I was onlIne
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Try this one on for size Bill…you to ice.
Round 1: 8
*Laquon Treadwell WR 1 Ole Miss Jr 6-2 221
Need to replace Gordon as he isn’t like ever to play in the NFL again. Treadwell is just as good a Gordon though IMO.Round 2: 32
Connor Cook QB 4 Michigan State rSr 6-4 217
Number 2 QB on my board. Very smart and can make all the throws. RG..WHO?Round 3: 65
Nick Martin C 2 Notre Dame rSr 6-4 299
Can play center or guard, will replace Mack or Greco.Round 3: 77
John Theus OT 10 Georgia Sr 6-6 313
Schwartz’s replacement at RT and likely day 1 starter.Round 4: 99
*Jordan Howard RB 8 Indiana Jr 6-0 230
Jackson version of Jeremy Hill, A big heavy down hill runner.Round 4: 100
Joe Schobert OLB 11 Wisconsin Sr 6-1 244
Can never have to many pass rushers.Round 4: 138
Ben Braunecker TE 6 Harvard Sr 6-3 250
Another athletic target for Cook.Round 5: 141
Devon Cajuste WR 21 Stanford rSr 6-4 234
#2 WR that reminds me of Joe Jurevicious.Round 5: 172
*T.J. Green FS 6 Clemson Jr 6-2 209
Big athletic safety that is a coverted WR. Needs coached up some but will be very good after that.Round 5: 173
Matt Ioannidis DT 17 Temple Sr 6-3 299 5-6
Depth at 34 DE and on subpackages.Round 6: 176
James Bradberry CB 24 Samford rSr 6-1 211
Small school big bodied press man corner. Can play safety as well.Round 7: 223
Moritz Boehringer WR 30 Schwabisch Hall Sr 6-4 227
German long shot that has crazy athletic ability.http://cloudassetserver.com/STL/posts/185/sp_04_976x0.jpg
I hate hate HATE Connor Cook. The guy wasn’t even the captain of his football team. He’s not a leader. All the physical tools but his mindset puts him as a late 2nd/early 3rd prospect at best. I’d look at him in the 3rd round. I’m sure he’ll go before that though.
The guy wasn’t even the captain of his football team. He’s not a leader. All the physical tools but his mindset puts him as a late 2nd/early 3rd prospect at best.
I think that a lot of the reports/opinions/to do being made of Connor cooks leadership are widely exaggerated. I think that when he wasn’t voted as a captain, some people took that as “oh, well he must not be a good leader” and then it was repeated over and over and over again until it started being believed as truth and fact. D’antonio has come out and said more than once that it wasn’t the case at all, and that his leadership wasn’t in question. Of course though, no one wants to listen to or hear that. That story/thought/opinion came out at the beginning of the year and stayed the entire season.
Now, that’s not me endorsing Cook as a QB at all, I just don’t like seeing a guy railroaded for what appears to be no real reason at all.
As for him as a QB, he’s a Northeast Ohio kid, went to Walsh Jesuit and grew up a Browns fan. He’s a Rose Bowl MVP, and one of the most decorated QB’s in Big Ten History. I wouldn’t throw something at my TV if we draft him.
The guy wasn’t even the captain of his football team. He’s not a leader. All the physical tools but his mindset puts him as a late 2nd/early 3rd prospect at best.
I think that a lot of the reports/opinions/to do being made of Connor cooks leadership are widely exaggerated. I think that when he wasn’t voted as a captain, some people took that as “oh, well he must not be a good leader” and then it was repeated over and over and over again until it started being believed as truth and fact. D’antonio has come out and said more than once that it wasn’t the case at all, and that his leadership wasn’t in question. Of course though, no one wants to listen to or hear that. That story/thought/opinion came out at the beginning of the year and stayed the entire season.
Now, that’s not me endorsing Cook as a QB at all, I just don’t like seeing a guy railroaded for what appears to be no real reason at all.
As for him as a QB, he’s a Northeast Ohio kid, went to Walsh Jesuit and grew up a Browns fan. He’s a Rose Bowl MVP, and one of the most decorated QB’s in Big Ten History. I wouldn’t throw something at my TV if we draft him.I just didn’t see “IT” with Cook. That’s not to say he’s a bad player, but there’s nothing to make me think he could be a great player at the next level. I see him as being a high end backup, where there’s always some team that thinks they can take him to the next level, but he never takes that step. Kind of like a Kyle Orton. Nothing technically wrong, just doesn’t have “IT”.
The guy wasn’t even the captain of his football team. He’s not a leader. All the physical tools but his mindset puts him as a late 2nd/early 3rd prospect at best.
I think that a lot of the reports/opinions/to do being made of Connor cooks leadership are widely exaggerated. I think that when he wasn’t voted as a captain, some people took that as “oh, well he must not be a good leader” and then it was repeated over and over and over again until it started being believed as truth and fact. D’antonio has come out and said more than once that it wasn’t the case at all, and that his leadership wasn’t in question. Of course though, no one wants to listen to or hear that. That story/thought/opinion came out at the beginning of the year and stayed the entire season.
Now, that’s not me endorsing Cook as a QB at all, I just don’t like seeing a guy railroaded for what appears to be no real reason at all.Yes, it’s unheard of for a head coach to stick up for his players.
As for him as a QB, he’s a Northeast Ohio kid, went to Walsh Jesuit and grew up a Browns fan. He’s a Rose Bowl MVP, and one of the most decorated QB’s in Big Ten History. I wouldn’t throw something at my TV if we draft him.
None of that means anything – the guy in 3 years starting had a high completion % for a year in 2013 – it was a whopping 58.7%. It went DOWN each year.
vs. Alabama – 48% completion 0 TDs and 2 ints.
Taking him prior to round 6 = dumb.
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Thoughts on NOT drafting a QB at ALL. And just building up a team for a QB to be selected down the line?
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Nope. Until we have a franchise QB we should be drafting one every single draft, even if it’s a 7th round pick.
Yes, it’s unheard of for a head coach to stick up for his players.
I missed the part where I said that was. What’s your point?
He’s a Rose Bowl MVP, and one of the most decorated QB’s in Big Ten History
None of that means anything
Lol, of course it doesn’t. Clearly what Conor Cook should have been doing at Michigan State was working on his degree in Underwater Basket Weaving because it was obvious to everyone with eyes that over the 3 years he was playing football and leading his team to Big Ten titles and vying for national championships that he really had absolutely no clue how to actually play football. It’s amazing that he was even allowed to be out on the field. Right?
Taking him prior to round 6 = dumb.
Sometimes talking to you is like that scene from A Clockwork Orange where they prop his eyes open and make him watch violence for long periods of time.
One important thing to remember . . . in his final game as a collegiate quarterback against Alabama, he raised the level of all his team mates and scored ZERO POINTS.
Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!
19-39 for 210 yards with ZERO touchdowns and 2 picks. Now THAT’S leadership all right.
Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!
Before the draft, a lot of people questioned JaCheeseburger Russell’s work ethic. His coach praised his work ethic and said it’s all just smoke.
Before the draft, a lot of people questioned Manziel’s passion for football as opposed to fame. His coach praised him as one of the most competitive players he’d ever coached.
Before the draft, a lot of people questioned LenWhale White’s ability to stay in shape. His coach praised him as a hard worker.
Where there’s smoke, there’s often fire. Cook’s leadership has been challenged often. Can you name a starting NFL QB who was not the captain of his college team as the starter? I can’t think of any. For a QB to NOT be named captain is significant ESPECIALLY FOR A 4 YEAR STARTER!
Yes, it’s unheard of for a head coach to stick up for his players.
I missed the part where I said that was. What’s your point?
You mentioned that his coach said the statements about him were false but no one wanted to listen.
He’s a Rose Bowl MVP, and one of the most decorated QB’s in Big Ten History
Now I see why you are so obsessed with what he did here – he did it against OSU in 2013. You know, his first year starting – where he regressed the next 2 years. You keep saying he’s one of the most decorated QBs in big 10 history. Does he paint his nails or something? 58.7 – that’s the guys HIGHEST completion rate in a year. He ended as a senior at 56%. Oh joy.
None of that means anything
Lol, of course it doesn’t. Clearly what Conor Cook should have been doing at Michigan State was working on his degree in Underwater Basket Weaving because it was obvious to everyone with eyes that over the 3 years he was playing football and leading his team to Big Ten titles and vying for national championships that he really had absolutely no clue how to actually play football. It’s amazing that he was even allowed to be out on the field. Right?
I was referring to the part where you mentioned he grew up a Browns fan, etc.
Taking him prior to round 6 = dumb.
Sometimes talking to you is like that scene from A Clockwork Orange where they prop his eyes open and make him watch violence for long periods of time.
Don’t make me come to your house with a billy club and a bunch of English dudes wearing all white with goofy long nosed masks.
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Speaking of Jamarcus Russell . . . one NFL scout uses him in comparing Cardale Jones to another QB – albeit a “poor man’s version”. If Miggy-Figgy will apply himself to learn an offense and stabilize his mechanics (because they’re all over the place from throw to throw) he could make something of himself. However, I think that the pressure to succeed will manage to get the best of him – especially if he’s drafted by his hometown team. Most unfortunate indeed.
Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!
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